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		<title>By: tro choi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tro choi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;tro choi...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: improve your eyesight</title>
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		<dc:creator>improve your eyesight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;improve your eyesight...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>improve your eyesight&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Server Hilfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Server Hilfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 9600M GS....why it does not work ??</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all gobbledok, thank you for all of the information.  The reading was very helpful, several useful points were made clearer, and my red/cyan glasses have been ordered!  I was able to get into a game (L4D2) and see the different red and cyan images using the free anaglyph driver from iZ3D.

Thanks again, Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all gobbledok, thank you for all of the information.  The reading was very helpful, several useful points were made clearer, and my red/cyan glasses have been ordered!  I was able to get into a game (L4D2) and see the different red and cyan images using the free anaglyph driver from iZ3D.</p>
<p>Thanks again, Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: gobbledok</title>
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		<dc:creator>gobbledok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 06:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: michael.

being a long time nvidia user i cant really say much about the requirements for your HD 5670 but as far as i know....
 no, you do not require a &quot;3d ready display&quot; especially with anaglyph mode any display/tv should work. if you have the wrong colour lenses just go to a $2 shop and
Buy some coloured plastic wrap matching the reqired colour. ( only cost me $1.50 per colour and i have enough to make 1000 pairs of anaglyph 3d glasses.)

 also only a few of the outputs for the IZ3D drivers will need a special monitor to work but most of them actually dont. (eg dual projector, mirrored, split screen, vga shutter output ect.)

   But if you happen have any 2 monitors of same size and a video card with two outputs (most do) then all you need is 1 mirror and use the planar mirror IZ3D output. 
There is NO colour loss OR drop in refresh rate OR resolution as is seen with most other options anaglyph, and shutter glasses , sli polerized lcds.
 (eg. &quot;3d vision&quot; even when set to 120Hz, you will only see 60Hz per eye so it looks like the old skool tv flicker.)( FPS will always drop due to 2x viewpoints = 2x resoluton being rendered)  
 
basicaly you place your monitors in a V angle facing you, then place your mirror in the middle of the V and thats pretty much it.  One eye will look straight at 1st screen and the other looks at 
the other screen through the mirror.
   
The mirrored output in the iz3d drivers will send a (left to right) mirrored image to the Second monitor which will appear normal when reflected by the mirror. 
You will probably have to adjust the monitor position to align the screens. (eg tilt up/down, twist one L/R , or change the angle between them.) 

these and a number of other methods are SO simple to do that nvidia has removed ALL these other outputs from there drivers so that we would be Forced to buy their &quot;3d vision system&quot;. 
 Nvidia&#039;s &quot;new&quot; method has been around for more than 15 years. 
And &quot;3d certified&quot; is a fictional label it refers only to one fact..... they paid nvidia big $$$$ for a licence not to be blocked by the new drivers.

The &quot;120hz limit&quot; is also fictional. while a high refresh definitly will improve the experience and reduce eye strain. 
 This forced limit indicates that Nvidia belive that most people are too stupid to decide when to upgrade for themselves. 
They should let us decide for ourselves as seeing s3d stock gives people a good reason to buy a new monitor.
 
Previously there were no limits and it worked as low as 60hz and this would allow you to use it with any monitor/display , this limit is a marketing trick to make it seem more hitech and 
to sell overpriced lcds and projectors.    
 
I used wired shutter glasses using generic drivers from edimentional and a stock-standard 17&quot;CRT monitor at 140Hz way back . (mid to late1990&#039;s)
(I still have em and they still work with most cards that have a real vga output ( pre. geforce 8xxx) so long as I loaded the old s3d drivers that had the 7-8 different methods of S3D output that &quot;IZ3D&quot; will still give you)
 there was even a wireless version to, wich back then cost less than nvidia&#039;s do now so go figure.

I even bought a pair of 7&quot; hd lcds cheap stripped em extended a few ribon cables and built a 3d-headset out of a old go-cart helmet, 1 mirror i&#039;d cut and shaped to fit my eyes/nose shape, 
and some reading glasses from a chemist $15,
depending on the lenses used the FOV can be made as high as 70-150 degrees. (150 degrees = as far left to right as you can see without having to turn your head. &quot;a bit overkill though&quot;) 

eg if you happen to have 2 projectors buy some ploerized film and a metalic or glass bead type projector screen and you can use the pasive X polerized 3d movie glasses (eg. avatar 3d ) easy.

there are many other options.



....ps. sorry about the Ranting...........................hopefully I said something usefull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: michael.</p>
<p>being a long time nvidia user i cant really say much about the requirements for your HD 5670 but as far as i know&#8230;.<br />
 no, you do not require a &#8220;3d ready display&#8221; especially with anaglyph mode any display/tv should work. if you have the wrong colour lenses just go to a $2 shop and<br />
Buy some coloured plastic wrap matching the reqired colour. ( only cost me $1.50 per colour and i have enough to make 1000 pairs of anaglyph 3d glasses.)</p>
<p> also only a few of the outputs for the IZ3D drivers will need a special monitor to work but most of them actually dont. (eg dual projector, mirrored, split screen, vga shutter output ect.)</p>
<p>   But if you happen have any 2 monitors of same size and a video card with two outputs (most do) then all you need is 1 mirror and use the planar mirror IZ3D output.<br />
There is NO colour loss OR drop in refresh rate OR resolution as is seen with most other options anaglyph, and shutter glasses , sli polerized lcds.<br />
 (eg. &#8220;3d vision&#8221; even when set to 120Hz, you will only see 60Hz per eye so it looks like the old skool tv flicker.)( FPS will always drop due to 2x viewpoints = 2x resoluton being rendered)  </p>
<p>basicaly you place your monitors in a V angle facing you, then place your mirror in the middle of the V and thats pretty much it.  One eye will look straight at 1st screen and the other looks at<br />
the other screen through the mirror.</p>
<p>The mirrored output in the iz3d drivers will send a (left to right) mirrored image to the Second monitor which will appear normal when reflected by the mirror.<br />
You will probably have to adjust the monitor position to align the screens. (eg tilt up/down, twist one L/R , or change the angle between them.) </p>
<p>these and a number of other methods are SO simple to do that nvidia has removed ALL these other outputs from there drivers so that we would be Forced to buy their &#8220;3d vision system&#8221;.<br />
 Nvidia&#8217;s &#8220;new&#8221; method has been around for more than 15 years.<br />
And &#8220;3d certified&#8221; is a fictional label it refers only to one fact&#8230;.. they paid nvidia big $$$$ for a licence not to be blocked by the new drivers.</p>
<p>The &#8220;120hz limit&#8221; is also fictional. while a high refresh definitly will improve the experience and reduce eye strain.<br />
 This forced limit indicates that Nvidia belive that most people are too stupid to decide when to upgrade for themselves.<br />
They should let us decide for ourselves as seeing s3d stock gives people a good reason to buy a new monitor.</p>
<p>Previously there were no limits and it worked as low as 60hz and this would allow you to use it with any monitor/display , this limit is a marketing trick to make it seem more hitech and<br />
to sell overpriced lcds and projectors.    </p>
<p>I used wired shutter glasses using generic drivers from edimentional and a stock-standard 17&#8243;CRT monitor at 140Hz way back . (mid to late1990&#8242;s)<br />
(I still have em and they still work with most cards that have a real vga output ( pre. geforce 8xxx) so long as I loaded the old s3d drivers that had the 7-8 different methods of S3D output that &#8220;IZ3D&#8221; will still give you)<br />
 there was even a wireless version to, wich back then cost less than nvidia&#8217;s do now so go figure.</p>
<p>I even bought a pair of 7&#8243; hd lcds cheap stripped em extended a few ribon cables and built a 3d-headset out of a old go-cart helmet, 1 mirror i&#8217;d cut and shaped to fit my eyes/nose shape,<br />
and some reading glasses from a chemist $15,<br />
depending on the lenses used the FOV can be made as high as 70-150 degrees. (150 degrees = as far left to right as you can see without having to turn your head. &#8220;a bit overkill though&#8221;) </p>
<p>eg if you happen to have 2 projectors buy some ploerized film and a metalic or glass bead type projector screen and you can use the pasive X polerized 3d movie glasses (eg. avatar 3d ) easy.</p>
<p>there are many other options.</p>
<p>&#8230;.ps. sorry about the Ranting&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;hopefully I said something usefull</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that you left a link for ATI users but your current setup with nvidia does not require a 3D display.  After reviewing the IZ3D information it seems that a 3D display is required; is there a way around the 3D display requirement for ATI users (ATI Radeon HD 5670)?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that you left a link for ATI users but your current setup with nvidia does not require a 3D display.  After reviewing the IZ3D information it seems that a 3D display is required; is there a way around the 3D display requirement for ATI users (ATI Radeon HD 5670)?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: komputer</title>
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		<dc:creator>komputer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great game awesome thanks for share</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t tried this game yet!</description>
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		<title>By: fdsgjdjgg</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdsgjdjgg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its fun</p>
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